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Ok, make sure you read this, it sets the ground rules and understandings.
The raw diet, like life, has many different successful routes. I have
tried to detail some of the basic questions that you may have which will
hopefully get you onto the raw diet track.
People have different ideas about the raw diet and my suggestion if you become
confused, is NOT to go back to commercial foods, but start thinking about
what is best for your dog (or cat).
Start with the basics - a range of different raw meaty bones, or preferably whole items,
such as chicken, quail, fish, eggs. For
the majority of raw feeders - chicken is the base of the majority of their dogs
meals. However, if chicken is not available readily, use what is available
locally - raw meaty - lamb, beef, venison, duck, rabbit, kangaroo, pig, raw
whole fish. You get the picture.
Where possible you want to avoid using items that have been raised inappropriately.
For example, avoid beef that was raised in feedlots. Preferably the food should be
as organic and natural as possible.
Please note: Dogs do not have the digestive system to cope with grains.
Grains are one of the biggest sources of allergies in dogs. Grains make up
the majority of dog food company food sources. Many people find when they
switch to an all natural diet, the allergies their dogs had disappear. This is common.
Not only is feeding raw cheaper to feed than commercial dog foods, but there are
enormous savings to be made by not having all those vet visits to fix your
dogs' allergies. Are you asking yourself yet, "why hasn't my vet recommended
this?" Yes, I would ask that of them too. Unfortunately most vets receive NO
education at university on dog diet other than what the commercial dog food
company reps tell them! (yes, this is the education they PAY to get -
unbelievable. Luckily, some universities are realizing this mistake and
are making amends).
Check out whether your vet can give out objective information on a raw diet, or have they (like most vets) received their education sponsored by a pet food company?
(please join in the "digest" form, as there are over many members on this list)
.... and keep reading below for lots more information.....
There are also over 100 different other smaller raw feeding email lists that you can join.
Most people are on 2-3 raw feeding email lists, although I'm on about 10. To see this list
click here. If you are still stuck on which list to join,
email me, , and I will be more than happy to
help you out.
If your vet wants to find out more about the raw feeding processes, click here:
There are also a plethora of sites which are predominantly written by vets who have received all their education from pet food company sales reps, which
state how bad a raw diet is. What we decided to do is put together a forum for those vets and their so called "information" to be able to stand
the scrutiny of a number of intellects with the raw feeding world. Click here if you'd
like to find out more about how their claims have been discredited.
These benefits include:
Click here to read some more detailed true stories.
and most scarey of all:
There are also considerable kickbacks vets, vet schools, and breeders can receive from recommending a commercial diet.
And most importantly, their advertising campaigns are slick, and tend to make
people feel guilty if they feed any other way.
And people are suckers for good advertising.
Let me make this very clear to you, I make no money from recommending a raw diet, so you can be assured, by making such recommendations, I get no financial kickbacks, nor will ever seek any.
As a breeder of dogs I could make a small fortune by letting my dogs be in
dog food commercials, and by selling on commercial dog foods.
I only recommend feeding raw because I want your dogs to be getting the diet that will
make them the healthiest that they can possibly be.
As a rough guide, my adult male boxer (neutered) will eat a chicken quarter a day as the base of his meal, and then some other bits and pieces.
The same goes for my Portuguese Water Dogs. My borzoi requires about twice as much.
My toy poodle will have three chicken necks a day (or more if he's been a
bit active) as the base for his meal.
My cats will eat about the same amount as the toy poodle, but they do prefer fish over all other food!
Look at your dogs and cats regularly - if they are looking a bit porky, then remove all carbs in their diet. If they look a bit thin, then, an extra
chicken quarter in the diet for a few days may be the solution.
It's not hard to do, and when you get into a routine, it's darn easy. Trust me!
On the other hand, cooked chicken bones can be a problem, and I recommend that
you DON'T feed COOKED chicken bones.
Some people are worried about their dog choking on bones. While such incidents are very rare (far more incidents occur with dogs choking on kibble), I encourage the feeding of bigger portions of meaty bones, or if available, whole carcasses, such as whole chickens or rabbits.
So could a raw chicken bone kill a dog? Well I guess that anything is possible.
Certainly scientifically you can't prove a negative argument. However what we do
know is that dogs have died from inhaling kibble the wrong way and choking and
suffocating to death.
Feeding your dog is about management of risk. No matter which path you
decide to take there is always risk. There is always someone who will
criticise your decision. However you, and only you can decide what is
best for your dogs. Weigh up all the benefits and risks. Do your own analysis.
Do your research. Do what will have the greatest overall benefit for your dog.
There is a real need to manage this.
You need to be careful with all dogs regardless of what they eat during
their meal times. I've heard of dogs choking and dying on kibble, and
dogs choking on raw meaty bones. - Just like I have heard of humans who
have choked and died on a small piece of sausage or cheese.
You should supervise all meal times.
If a dog is scarfing down their food, I feed them by hand, in an isolated
environment, until they learn how to chew. Chewing is critical for a dog.
And literally some dogs need to figure it out as adults how to do it.
Sometimes I will hold one end of the chicken quarter and not let them swallow
it until they have chewed it a bit. Puppies that I have brought up feeding
raw meaty bones from an early age never seem to have these sort of issues.
But you never can tell.
Some dogs will try and inhale even large meaty bones, so you really need to
work with these guys carefully. They should eventually work it out. As stated early, feed really large portions, that forces the dogs to chew.
There is an increasing understanding that best nutrition is achieved when feeding the whole carcass, rather than just bits of it. So to help a "scarfer" perhaps a whole carcass might slow them down.
Be also careful of the greedy guts who thinks s/he will be starving unless
food is consumed in great quantities immediately. Most dogs will learn eventually,
but others, well, it may take a long time.
So in summary, monitor meal times, and be sure to watch out for the greedy guts -
and manage them carefully.
However, in over 99% of cases, dogs and cats should be fed whole meaty bones/carcasses. Ground bones are a poor substitute to whole bones. In addition, consuming such does not give the dogs the important muscle work out they need.
There has also been a very small number of cases caused by impaction of ground bones.
Frankly, feeding ground bones tends to help nervous owners get over the whole "can't possibly feed my dogs whole bones" mentality, but is not the best thing for your dog. If you insist on feeding ground bones, please understand the negatives of such.
If you really do have spare money, donate it to me!
Don't fall into the trap of feeding supplements "just in case". If you feed your dog/cat a variety of raw meaty bones/carcasses, then you're dog has the best platform upon which to base their health.
Just remember - NEVER EVER FEED KIBBLE!
Ok, there is bacteria everywhere. Dogs have an amazing immunity system
specifically designed to eat all manner of bacteria. And a healthy raw fed
fed dog manages those bacteria without a problem.
E-coli, salmonella, etc are found on raw chicken, but those nasties are also
found in your fridge, in your sink, on your floor, in your backyard, in your
car, on the footpath, down at the park, and perhaps in your bed! Interestingly,
the only cases I have heard of dogs dying from e-coli or salmonella, were dogs
fed commercial dog foods.
The most important thing is to wash your hands thoroughly after feeding your dogs,
and even after cutting up meat for your own meals. Our digestive systems are not
quite as robust as our dogs, so we must protect ourselves.
I use a spray bottle containg white vinegar which I spray about when I need
some disinfecting.
I have been feeding my animals a raw for several years, and have yet to have a problem
with bacterial infections with my dogs. They are so darn healthy, they are
never at the vets! Well, except for when I got them micro-chipped.
Additionally I have raised a number of litters all successfully on a raw diet.
Keep in mind that vets are told very little about dog diet at university.
In fact, in some universities, reps from the dog food companies, come and do
presentations on dog diet, as part of the curriculum. Many vets get their
education on dog diet by dog food reps.
And many vets make a lot of money by retailing dog foods.
If you have a vet that doesn't want to be re-educated, or will not discuss
options, then that is a very sad state of affairs. Here's hoping you can
find a better vet.
Given this age of the internet, there is absolutely no excuse for vets not
to be educated on all feeding options. And there are plenty of vets on the
internet who would gladly converse with other vets about feeding raw. You found this
page, why can't they?!!
That being said, there are plenty of vets out there now who realise that there
are significantly better alternatives to commercial dog food. Many vets who
have changed their ways are very sorry that they did not "see the light" much
earlier.
My dogs will also get fish heads, eel, prawns, squid, and any other raw meaty carcass I can get. Sometimes this means kangaroo!
- do you get the picture yet - be relaxed about how you feed!
Dogs do not have the digestive system to cope with grains. Most
commercial dog foods contain more than 50% grains (yes, this includes all
those fancy expensive ones too! ) Grains are one of the biggest sources of
allergies in dogs.
My dogs have a diet that is high in protein, and low in carbohydrates -
like nature intended.
You can also try things like pigs' trotters (that's pig's feet), ox tail,
lamb's necks. Some people also have access to ostrich carcasses, and deers.
Be creative. And don't forget raw whole fish!
This is the best thing you can do for your bitch.
I have actually changed the diet of a bitch I obtained, who was pregnant,
to raw food when she was pregnant. I was certainly not worried about any cross
over issues. For her, the potential damage of commercial foods to her and
her puppies was my main concern. I couldn't get her onto a raw food diet quickly enough!
Mind you, she did eat one heck of a lot! So for pregnant and nursing bitches
you will find that they need more food to cope with the demands of the little
guys! And sometimes, a pregnant bitch will not want to eat a lot. You let your
bitch be the judge. She knows her needs.
Of course, you won't want to feed that little puppy huge marrow bones! So, use common sense in your feeding.
I've got a range of books I recommend which you can browse by clicking here. The most fabulous book you will find is the book by Weston Price. Now this book was written before the time of even the introduction of commercial dog food. In fact, the book doesn't even discuss dogs or cats. It talks about human nutrition. It is an extraordinary read with fantastic photos, and you'll really start to understand how the wrong food can cause immense problems in humans within a short period of time. With this knowledge, you can easily apply it to our companion animals. And there's always that great movie about the guy who ate McDonalds for a month.
With my show dogs, I call the raw diet, "my secret advantage". On one level
I would much prefer that my competitors don't feed the raw diet, as I know their dogs
will not be in the same condition as my guys. But on the other hand, what I want most,
is for dogs to be healthy, regardless of who owns them.
Interestingly now days, the raw diet speaks volumes in the ring, and we often get asked
the question, "what do you feed?".
We often win dog food at dog shows. The first thing we do with that is put it in the
closest trash bin. There's no room for that sort of rubbish in our dogs' diet.
The health of my dogs is far too important for me to compromise it by feeding a vastly
inferior standard of food that commercial food represents.
Pet shelters take heed - if you approach the right suppliers, you will probably find you can get ALL of the food needs of the dogs for free, or for a very low price. Email me for more information on how this can easily be achieved.
To learn more about improving dog behaviour and how to be the leader of your pack using completely non aggressive methods, click here.
It is highly recommended that you read through this whole page thorougly,
surf the raw food webring, and borrow or buy some of the books in addition to
being on the email list.
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Introduction -
This FAQ is NOT a bible! So much for objective information! ... the Australian Vet Association's principal sponsor is a pet food company.
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What is Feeding Raw all about?
Feeding Raw - it refers to a type of diet fed to dogs
(and cats) which totally excludes all commercial dog foods.
Why should I feed a raw diet?
A raw diet provides a range of benefits that commercial dog diets
can never hope to even closely match.
What have people have reported?
People who have switched their dogs to a raw diet from commercial dog
foods have found the following:
Why is commercial dog food not good for my dog?
There are a range of problems with commercial dog foods. I will provide
some links below, but in summary:
Well then, why do so many people still feed their dogs commercial dog foods?
Yes, it confuses me too! However, commercial dog food companies have got the
advertising part down amazingly well. They have entered the market at every point.
With some companies, breeders and vets get major discounts and kick-backs for selling
their product. They sponsor dog shows, they advertise in dog magazines, they get
high profile people (including vets) to talk about their product.
But how will I know how much to feed my dog?
You feed your dog based on their energy requirements. It will differ
for how much work your dog does, and what their metabolism is like.
But aren't chicken bones dangerous?!!!
This is one of the biggest myths of all time! Raw chicken bones are fantastic
for your dog. They are soft enough so that they bend easily, and break well
for the dog to digest.
My dog tends to inhale food!??? -
This is common with some dogs who have been raised on commercial food who
don't actually ever learn to chew.
How about pre-packaged raw foods?
Pre-packed raw foods are entering the market in a big way. However, for the most part, they are inappropriate food stuffs. Here's just some of the problems with them:
Should I grind the bones?
In a small number of cases, invariably where the dog/cat has a rare medical condition, ground bones are necessary.
What supplements should I feed?
Ah... to supplement or not to supplement! Well there are some people out there and pharmaceutical companies making a load of money off gullible people! In almost every single case, the feeding of supplements is a complete waste of time and money.
But what about bacteria on raw chicken?
So many good questions!
But my vet doesn't think that feeding raw is any good
Then your vet needs some serious re-educating!
What do you feed your dogs, Jane?
Great question! These are the things my dogs eat:
Please note: dogs are carnivores - they do not need either fruit or vegetables.
Grains
PLEASE NOTE: I NEVER EVER FEED MY DOGS GRAINS - THIS MEANS, NO OATS, RICE,
WHEAT, BREAD, CORN, ETC.
Where can I buy this stuff?
Talk to your local butcher, abbotoir, or chicken processor. Many of the
leftovers that these guys consider waste, us raw feeders people consider fantastic
for our dogs. Things like chicken carcasses, chicken necks, chicken feet,
and chicken heads are considered rubbish, and are sold for next to nothing.
You should be able to get these fairly easily.
Can I feed my pregnant bitch on raw food?
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Can I feed puppies on raw food?
You most certainly can. And the good news is that unlike the commercial dog foods who recommend a confusing range of foods for different age groups, raw food fed dogs are fed the same regardless of age.
How do I learn more?
There are a number of books on raw that have been written. None of them are perfect. Some recommend grains, or veggies, or fruit, or cooked food (including table scraps) of some sort. Despite our animals being "domestic", this has simply changed their behaviour, and has certainly not changed their digestive tract (despite what your well meaning vet might try and tell you.) By all means, look at the books on the market, but invariably, you will disappointed to some degree by each of them. In the end, the raw feeding email list is probably going to be the best source of information for you. Click here for more information.
Jane, you spend a lot of time talking to people about dog diet. Why do
you do it?
Life is about learning. Part of my core instinct is to help people out. As part of this,
I feela great desire to ensure that we look after our fellow furry friends. Suggested links from here:
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